#thinking about how el and nancy are literally the most iconic fucking characters in this entire fucking show and are paid dust by all of u
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yall dont deserve her btw.
#nancy wheeler#stranger things#txt#thinking about how el and nancy are literally the most iconic fucking characters in this entire fucking show and are paid dust by all of u#months and months hearing abt this and that when the main event was right here and w el and max#anyways
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Um I want planning on it but...
Mike Wheeler's Guide to Falling in Love with a Superhero - live reaction
Dvjhdazfhhygvb literally such Micheal behavior
Wait he knows Max irl in this? Is he in the same friend group? Is he seriously the only human in his friend group? Lmao.
Also Nancy working for Daily Bugle is a nice touch
Wait Dustin isn't super. Zoomer, Ranger, Eleven, Spiderman, yup Dustin's human too.
What even is Micheal's job?
Why does every Mike characterization include him thinking "objectively"? Ajsjbxhcjdnd canon.
Better be a paper straw, bud
"This is a robbery" um okay *continues doing homework and drinking coffee* my dude she is a r m e d
I can't- Will living his sassy dreams, calling villains friendless I bet
So Doc Ock is the same person who was talking about her son who loves heroes, right?
Wait is this even Doc Ock? Is there more than one villain with a lab coat?
Wait are Dusty and Micheal just. Sitting there? ansnchdbehfjfxbj icon behavior lmao
Why do all Mike characterizations involve fantasies of violence? Canon.
"Um sorry I want a less embarrassing death" shut up you pretentious fuck literally accurate
Wait it's a café on the seventh floor? Jesus Christy maybe care a little more about your um life than "He dropped me on the sidewalk no big" wgat
Wait the cage isn't where he works? Why did he call his boss a baker then?? Full me in I'm stupid :/
Literally stunning
No, keep talking. I want to know if Dusty was literally about to say "so gay".
Mike:
We love a pathetic Micheal. Stg he's such a damsel in distress. On the one hand of you constantly almost die maybe you should hit the gym on the other hand I love nothing more than just a useless main character.
"No more room for (dignity) in his noodly body" silly little phrases>>>
We spent two seconds in proximity and you haven't paid an attention to me. Hope i die.
HE LITERALLY IS ansbchebhfufbbfjc PERFECT
No that is literally the most Richie sorry ever I'm DYING
The melodrama of it all
I love how you can tell the writer's personality. Yes, describe the little outfits that civilians wear. I want to know <2
If Will calls him "Cool Guy" as Will I will DIE
"Cool" "cool" maybe stab me
"I love sci-fi" you are sci-fi.
How does his neck not break
Micheal's face rn:
How very cringefail of you, Micheal
You've seen Jonathan exploding Mike in his mind, get ready for:
Totally normla
TROY (also slay, El)
Heart eyes
His book is literally Stranger Things <2
He's not like the other girls I'M DEAD
And i like talking with you, stalker
I went most of a chapter thinking this draft got lost :/
Martin like Martin Brenner? (<- quotes to get urself publicly executed)
So Mike said he knows Max, but I don't think he knows the others besides Dustin. That makes sense bc Max prob wouldn't introduce her friends to her super friends, right?
This is kinda different from canon bc in canon they're friends for a decade and their friendship is super important, but in this version, we can focus on what I really care about- Mike being a fucking loser (affectionate)
I really like the little details like the book Mike writes being ST- and wonton b2 alongside b1 bc there was a ✨️plan✨️ all along. WAIT IS HIS SELF INSERT NAMED MIKHAIL-
It's okay I'm normla now.
My dude stop flirting you are on the clock holy shit as far as Micheal knows you're a stranger jesus christy
Did I mention how fucking funny the ladies' man comment was?
Micheal and me are both just dramatic little shits. Yes I will explode, actually.
Okay but what even
No comment
Najzbxbchhdhbdbxh hdbdjxdyxhdb💖💖💖💖💖
I FUCKING KNEW IT! C O O L G U Y !!!!!
Ookay
The fact I can hear all of this in their voices qjabxbxbhxhxhdhbc (did I mention they're dorks?)
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE ISN'T A GARUNTEE MOM I'M SCARED
Students when Spiderman goes in and out of this one apartment window alot:
Them when he starts coming out of a *different* apartment:
HE DID THE THING HE DID THE THING
YES SLAY
This post by @smoosnoom, this fic
#literally flawless#mike wheelers guide to falling in love with a superhero#spidey will and mj wheeler#byler
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Yes I also need that! A Steve who is guilty would be amazing especially since he did say ‘yes’ to the whole plan. While you can’t really fault him as they couldn’t come up with anything better and the people who they were trying to desperately get in touch with, just wouldn’t answer them. So like maybe the only thing they could have done was wait but at the same time: they have no idea how long they would have to wait and if vecna would get tired and just pick another victim. Or if he would get more powerful during that time frame. I also really want an emotional talk with Steve and Dustin. And even Steve and Lucas. They just seem like they should all have an emotional talk after they were the ones who were with max and would feel guilty the most. Also Erica and Steve should have one on one time. Like I know they want to go back to season 1 dynamics but at the same time these dynamics make sense in exploring them as Lucas, Dustin, Steve, and Erica along with El (but the others don’t know that yet sooo) were the ones to witness a lot of what vecna did to max. Like I know the others helped and knew max was in danger but they were the ones to see it up close. Lucas, Steve, and Dustin witnessed the first time she was truly vecna’d. Then Lucas, Erica, and El saw the last time she was vecna’d when she died for a whole minute. And Lucas had to hold Max’s body while Erica tried to get to her brother and saw max lying dead in his arms. Which like I’m genuinely curious on when they filled Erica in on what was happening to max. Cuz she knew about the whole ud and vecna but like I don’t remember them actually telling her that max almost died and was the most vulnerable of the group.
Literally the whole ‘can you read,’ and ‘can you host?’ is the most iconic one! I also love them just singing the chicken noodle soup song! Gaten’s so funny he’s just like ‘damn we’re not an any key,’. I also love how they just do the most random stuff ever on set to try and annoy each other but in a loving best friend way. They always seem like the best of friends! And like whenever they have the fun interviews I’m just like ‘I want to be besties with you guys.’ They just seem so sweet!
Also putting this in one lol. And omg I hope you’re able to get out of your hometown cuz like you don’t seem happy but uhh correct me if I’m wrong cuz I don’t wanna assume soo. And I don’t think you’re projecting that much about it. These characters have legit got bullied so many times and almost died from their bullies. In season 1 mike legit was forced to jump off of a cliff cuz of their bullies. And in season 2 Lucas especially was at risk of getting killed cuz of billy. Also the other racism that he had to go through. And Steve legit almost got murdered also. So like I def feel like they would have this hatred toward their hometown and cuz no one actually does anything about it. Like they couldn’t exactly arrest Troy and that other kid cuz they could make a whole big scene about the breaking of the arm which they did. And Billy’s situation was complicated cuz he could tell people that max had a nailed bat and could actually get all of them arrested/isolated even more. Also like I wonder how it affected them seeing/interacting with their hometown. Like Dustin says that no one was nice to them coming to high school and I just want to know if it ever crossed their minds about beating them up and winning cuz they’ve fought more dangerous shit before. Like how Nancy could just use her gun to scare the bullies and how Lucas could use his wrist rocket aim to scare the living crap out of everyone. And them taking the nailed bat and just doing what max did to billy. Like they have the monsters of the ud, the government, and their peers who bully them breathing down their necks at all times. And I wanna know if it ever crossed their minds to scream the damn fucking truth about everything cuz of how pissed they are that they have to go through the pain time and time again. And they just want an ounce of friendship from anyone but end up getting treated even worse. Also I wish it affected their friendship with the hellfire club and Eddie. Like idk there was so much more to be explored there. Did they ever get jealous that the hellfire people didn’t have to go through that level of trauma? Did they resent the others for having such a deep connection to dnd when they have a very complicated past with it? Did they ever resent the hellfire club for seeing signs that they could be traumatized but never actually asking or taking the time to wonder what happened? Do they ever feel immediate guilt after that cuz they want to tell but can’t? Also like the whole thing is way more complicated when you’re faced with the fact that the gov will come after them for telling anyone or more people will just be even more traumatized/dead or that people would legit send them to pennhurst/a ward for even trying to speak about the truth. Anyways I think about this very much as you can tell lol cuz I wish it would be explored more
ugh I need steve and lucas interactions. they both have so much heart and both clearly care a hell of a lot about max. let them have meaningful, emotional interactions!! same with dustin. I obviously want steve and dustin to go back to season 2 era because I really love them in that season specifically. but I also really want dustin and lucas to bond a lot through their all of the bullshit they’ve been through, since they’ve been through it since the start together. overall I want everyone to just feel their feelings lol
yeah I think that they definitely have a really complicated relationship with hawkins. the hatred of their hometown and it holding everyone they love inside of it so they want to protect it and all that shit. it’s pretty clear that they feel alienated but I think they could have really dig deeper into that, especially with the kids and how that transition to high school made it even harder. like I said we get to see some of that, but I expected more clear not bullying per day but like their peers have to view them all oddly in some way or another. like max with billy and starcourt, them all being involved in the mall “fire” , even all the way back to wills disappearance. like people in a small town don’t forget anything and they like to talk and gossip. it doesn’t make a lot of sense for some gossip to get blown out of proportion, you know?
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If you had to rank all the 14 ST characters in the main group from most to least fav what would your ranking look like? (And by main group i mean the characters including murray and erica, and excluding karen, basically everybody involved in the final battle in 3x08)
ok let me preface this by saying that i literally love all of these characters i don't hate any of them okay?? let's go... ascending order for the drama!!
14. murray. no explanation needed. no offense to brett gelman he's phenomenal and i honestly think murray is really funny, but he's more or less just a plot device with some comic relief slapped on top.
now things get spicy <3
13. erica. love her to death! but she's fairly one-dimensional, once again primarily a comic relief character. maybe in s4 she'll get some more depth like the older kids have, but for now she's sort of a default next-to-last :/
12. will... no tea no shade but the kid's barely in the show! i absolutely want good things for him but like. i barely even know him. yknow? he’s only above erica bc he’s gay and she’s a capitalist. also that scene in s1 right before he gets snatched by the demogorgon when he just runs straight to the shed and grabs a goddamn shotgun and loads it fully ready to defend himself... that shit slapped good for him!!
11. this Will be controversial among some and i Know this character is many people's favorite... if you follow me already this is probably not going to surprise you but. nancy. i just think her character is kind of inconsistent, so i have a hard time really clicking with her :/ sometimes i love her and i think she's so cool and funny and hot (that hospital scene in s3... my GOD what a badass!) and other times i would like to fistfight her.
also let me get this out of the way right now: i'm aware that jonathan's character is ALSO super inconsistent!! i know okay??? i know!!!! please nobody judge me for how high rat boy gets on this ranking okay i'm literally making this up as i go along so idk if he's next or if he's like in the top five but i have a disease called Unreasonably Invested In Wildly Speculative Meta-Analysis Of Stranger Things which makes it impossible for me to be normal about jonathan and this is my ranking so i pick the bad taste!!!
10. joyce! i love her bro she's MOM and she tries so fucking hard all the goddamn time and she's so STRONG and kind and adorable... joyce is honestly a very unique and refreshing character ESPECIALLY if you’re considering stranger things within the horror genre which is often defined by these very specific archetypes of mothers and motherhood that i can get into if anyone is interested but like basically. love her <3
9. dustin <3 what an icon... i love him i love how he straight up killed a man and hardly flinched because it was to protect his friends and i love how he and his little girlfriend have a song they sing together and i love how he either has an insanely warped perspective on things due to low self-esteem or he just sometimes flatout lies to gain sympathy either way he’s a BABY and he’s so FUNNY and KIND and even when he’s scared he keeps going... ugh god and i love how even when he doubts his friends’ devotion to him he NEVER ever questions his devotion to them and he never ever considers leaving them behind or not stepping up to help them... he’s so brave!
8. mike is such a fucking BITCH but even more than that he is an ANGEL... literally his range who is doing it like him??? nobody!!!! graffiti’d the bathroom stall at school... hates cops.... what a legend. also i like how fucking goofy and dumb his hair looks in s3. also he’s very soft with his friends and it makes me cry. ALSO he literally stepped off a fucking CLIFF he was ready to DIE FOR DUSTIN and i know all the kids have risked their lives for each other but this wasn’t even a monster yknow this was just... bullies.... threatening his friend..... and mike couldn’t fucking let it happen bro he was ready to just step off the edge to keep dustin safe and it’s SO MUCH... and god the kindness he showed el when they first met!!! he’s a total angel and a total shithead and it’s amazing.
7. lucas my tiny baby hero.... he’s so strong and cool and capable yet at the same time he’s such a COMPLETE dork!!! he very seriously believes his slingshot wrist rocket is a lethal weapon and then he ACTUALLY USES IT AS A LETHAL WEAPON TO SAVE HIMSELF AND HIS FRIENDS!!! he hacks off a giant monster’s freaky tentacle arm thing with an axe to save his friend AND he keeps a bunch of action figures and random dice on his bedside table bro he just thinks they’re neat!!! like... i genuinely love him so much god he cares so much about his friends and he’s so brave and smart and loving... i know he is not tiny anymore but he is my tiny baby hero okay...
6. hopper! big man care for little girl... protect and love kids... dance to dad music... be goofy and hot... have trauma.... admit his faults and attempt to grow from them.... what's not to love?
5. jonathan... look i can’t explain it except that he loves his goddamn baby brother so much and i’m a sucker with extensive headcanons alright!
4. el!!! feral little darling girl!!! i literally cannot articulate the love that floods my heart whenever i see her face or think about her for too long she’s just... so strong but more than that she’s so incredibly KIND!! when she has every reason to be selfish and cruel and yeah at times she does let herself get a little mean but on the whole she’s always so goddamn kind and loving and selfless no matter how afraid she is or how she’s hurting... and i hope that with her powers gone in s4 she’ll maybe learn how to see herself as more than a tool to protect those she loves yknow but that’s off topic skdncmn i just think that el is such an incredible character with such depth!! she can be so grave and mature yet she’s still such an innocent child at the same time, and i think that both the writing and mbb’s acting are handled such that both of these things WORK and feel real and they make el (and her trauma) so believable. i just love her to death.
3. robin, light of my lesbian little life!! unfortunately she's wayyy too much like me to snag the top spot lmao. maybe once we get another season with her she’ll trample the competition but for now my baby is in a solid third place <3 i’ve never seen a lesbian on screen who i felt so accurately represented me and my experiences!! she feels so real and in just one season she’s become one of my favorites on the whole show, and i cannot fucking wait to see what else we learn about her and what development we see from her in s4.
2. as u may have guessed... max!! i know i said this was my subjective opinion but here i’ll just say it: max is objectively one of the best characters on the show. she’s so strong and funny and quick on her feet while harboring some real pain and insecurity at the same time, and both of these aspects of her character are married perfectly, logically connecting to one another and joining with sadie’s incredible acting to create an amazing character who feels just... so real!! i absolutely adore her and i CONSTANTLY tear up just from thinking about her skdncmn...
1. what if my number one wasn't steve. like can y'all imagine???? if i just said like will or some shit???? genuinely i did consider giving max or robin top billing here but i just Can't i've dedicated too goddamn much of my life to steve harrington to deny that he's my one and only. is there anything to say that hasn't already been said? look at the bitch. just look at him.
what other answer could there be?
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Will Byers is Gay: The Evidence So Far
With the release of Stranger Things 3, there has been a lot of discussion kicked up about the character of Will Byers and his sexuality (or lack thereof). I've seen a lot of takes about what "it's not my fault you don't like girls" was intended to mean, many of which seem to take it in isolation, so I wanted to make a post putting it into what I think is its proper context; not an isolated incident, but the latest carriage in veritable train of queer themed language and imagery that has followed Will Byers since episode one of season one, and before that. You ready? Alright, let's go.
Season Zero: the Montauk Files
Before Stranger Things became Stranger Things, it was called Montauk. Like many would-be show makers, the Duffer Bros put together a "show bible" describing the premise, setting, tone, and characters of the show they intended to make. Like many shows, a lot of these ideas changed or were lost on their way to the screen, but it's always worth looking into their original concepts. Here is their description of Will Byers in the Montauk show bible:
Obviously, the major whammy there is in the first line "sexual identity issues." But there are some other interesting notes, like his "colorful clothes" that you might want to keep a lookout for on your next rewatch. Now, onto...
Season 1
The thing to pay attention to regarding Will in season 1 is in the language used to refer to him when he is not present (which he isn't for most of the season).
Episode 1: the subject of bullying comes up right away in the conversation between Joyce and Hopper. "The kids, they're mean. They laugh at him, laugh at his clothes, call him names." "What's wrong with his clothes?" "I don't know!" This harkens back to the Montauk show bible, but it's arguable, since it's never made clear what about his clothes draws ire.
She also mentions that he is "sensitive," "not like most," and that his dad said he was "queer" and called him a "fag." Hopper asks "is he?" to which she replies "He's missing is what he is!"
Episode 3: Troy says he's not missing, he's dead. "Probably killed by some other queer."
Episode 4: Troy, again "Will's in fairyland, flying around with all the other little fairies, all happy and gay."
Sensitive, queer, fag, fairy, and gay are all used to describe Will in season 1, but perhaps more notable is the fact that they aren't used to describe anyone else. If the show were truly period accurate, let's be real; the whole party would've been called queers on a pretty regular basis, because "queer" doubled as a generic insult back then. But in season 1, these words are only ever used in relation to Will, with one exception; in episode 6, Steve says to Will's brother, "I used to think you were queer." So it's not even an active accusation in that moment; it's used in the negative.
Hell, Troy walked up to Lucas mockingly proposing to Mike and proclaiming his love for him, and he still didn't call them queers. That language is reserved for Will.
Now granted, most of these are used as insults by characters who don't like Will, but still; as a writer, if you want your audience to remember something, repetition is an excellent way to embed it in their minds. There's a reason for the specificity of language surrounding Will, and a reason that language keeps coming up over and over and over again.
Season 2
Season 2 retires much of the homophobic language used to insult Will, replacing it with "Zombie Boy." The only homophobic language used in season 2 is the word "faggot," used by Billy's father to refer to Billy, who expresses a clear interest in women (and an arguable interest in one particular man, but that's the subject of another post).
Still, there is an arguable bit of queer theming in Will's conversation with Jonathan regarding the benefits of being a "freak" and how normal people never accomplish anything. Jonathan even invokes bisexual icon David Bowie to make Will feel better about his "freakishness."
The clearest piece of queer theming for Will in season 2 comes in episode 8, in this beautiful speech from Joyce to Possessed Will:
"When you turned eight, I gave you that huge box of crayons, do you remember that? It was 120 colors. And all your friends got you Star Wars toys, but all you wanted to do was draw with all your new colors. And you drew this big spaceship, but it wasn't from a movie. It was YOUR spaceship; a RAINBOW Ship, that's what you called it. And you, you must have used every color in the box. I took that with me to Melvald's, and I put it up. I told everyone who came in, 'My son drew this.' And you were so embarrassed, but I was so proud. I was so, so proud."
This is one of the most powerful memories of her son that Joyce has, an image so strong and distinct that she uses it to invoke his true identity against the monster that is slowly subsuming him. She notes very specifically that it's not something he copied, but something that came entirely from Will himself, an image that she felt represented him so perfectly that she took it with her to work and proudly touted it as his to everyone she knew. The Rainbow Ship is Joyce's picture of her son's very heart, and surely I don't need to explain to you how powerful a piece of queer imagery the rainbow is.
Some subtextual stuff; in episode 9, when the girl asks Will to dance, he stammers "I... I don't..." and only goes to dance with her when Mike literally pushes him towards her.
During the final montage, the scene cuts to different characters in time with appropriate lines from the song: "every move you make" cuts to Mike and El (as he is teaching her to dance), "every vow you break" cuts to Nancy dancing with Dustin (as she technically cheated on Steve with Jonathan), "I'll be watching you" cuts to Lucas dancing with Max (as she has playfully called him 'stalker' all season). What line cuts to Will? "Every smile you fake," specifically on the word fake, while Will dances with a girl wearing this expression:
That is not a real smile, that is not a comfortable boy, and that is not an accident; Noah Schnapp is one of the best actors in the entire show, and of the young boys, he is the one the Duffers trust most to do dramatic heavy lifting.
Do you want it to be a little more explicit? Okay, here is that scene in the script:
I mean, that pretty much speaks for itself. It's less explicit in the actual show, but it's still there, you know?
Season 3
And now, the biggest and most explicit thing to date; The Scene. I mean, you could discuss the obvious subtext in the simple fact that Will is the only male main character who has yet to find a girlfriend or express any interest in girls whatsoever, but that pales in comparison to The Scene.
The setup for The Scene is pretty simple; after declaring "a day free of girls" in order to get his friends to run the D&D campaign he's probably spent a significant amount of time creating, his friends have blown him off to continue bemoaning their girl troubles, so Will has decided to leave. Mike, realizing too late that he has genuinely upset his friend, chases after him to try and get him to come back.
A back-and-forth argument ensues, where Will accuses Mike of ruining the party and abandoning his friends in favor of girls, and Mike, in the heat of the moment, responds with "It's not my fault you don't like girls!" After which, everything stops. There is a full second of silence, and a close up on Noah Schnapp's face so you can take in his reaction.
There is a lot to unpack here. Now, acting is up to interpretation to a degree, but to me, that expression conveys two primary emotions; shock, and betrayal. That face says "how could you?" Because here's the thing; regardless of what Mike does or doesn't know about Will's sexuality, Mike knows for a fact that Will has been called a queer all his life by everyone from his school bullies to his own fucking dirtbag father. By invoking even the specter of that, Mike has crossed a fucking line, and he knows it. And we know he knows it, because he immediately backtracks and tries to mitigate the damage. But it's too late. The damage has been done.
I also think there is a tinge of fear in that image. Just a moment of soul raking panic that pretty much every closeted queer person knows intimately. It's very brief. But I think it's there, if you look.
This scene sends Will into an emotional tailspin that culminates in him tearing down the literal last bastion of his childhood in a fit of sorrow and rage. His innocence has been destroyed. He cannot regain what he has lost, and he can never go back to the way things were before. This is the emotional climax of his arc for season three. It's a powerful one-- shame it comes in the third of eight episodes, but that's neither here nor there.
And that's pretty much it for now. Any one of these things taken in isolation could be very easily dismissed, but here's the thing; they aren't isolated incidents. They are part of a clear and consistent pattern, one that goes all the way back to the show's inception, before even one minute of footage was filmed. And this pattern points to one very obvious conclusion; the Duffer Brothers have always intended, and continue to intend, for Will Byers to be gay.
Now, for the obvious question; why haven't they made it explicit yet?
The answer is as unfortunate as it is obvious; I don't know.
It's entirely possible that there is some external force that the Duffers have to answer to that is preventing them from actively pursuing this particular storyline. This happens all the time in Hollywood, and it could be anything from Netflix to Noah Schnapp's parents to Noah Schnapp himself just being uncomfortable with it. Many are the creators who dream Big Gay Dreams only to run into the horrors of our Forced Hetero Reality. If the Duffers ultimately submit to these pressures, I hope you won't be too hard on them. This shit is harder than you think to get to the screen sometimes.
But it's also possible that they just aren't ready for it yet. That they have been saving this for a future storyline, that they just want their characters (and the actors) to get a little older before they pursue this particular storyline explicitly, but they've been busily laying groundwork for it so that anyone paying attention will know it's coming.
I don't know. Only time will tell for sure.
For now, I can tell you this; I see a great deal of evidence that the Duffers still intend for Will to be gay, and precisely zero that they have changed their minds.
I hope that holds true.
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Thoughts on Stranger Things 3/Hopes for ST4
I MEAN WOW, I feel like this season was the best yet and my favorite for sure! It honestly felt like it happened so fast- probably because it did in the day and half I bingewatched it. It was a perfect mix of humor, suspense, sci-fi/horror, character development, emotions, EMOTIONS, AND EMOTIONS. SO
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE HOPPER IS DEAD. If El had her powers, she would be able to find out where he is, but they believe he is dead and she does not have them FOR A REASON. Also, his body was not found next to the key, but earlier they showed the burnt bodies for a reason. I BELIEVE he either went into the upside down as a portal and the Russians found him. I MEAN, the post-credits scene in the Russian prison where they say “Not the American”?!!? THAT’S HIM. They hinted at an opening to the upside down in Russia in the FIRST EPISODE of the season, when they showed the snow and ice outside. This is just a continuation of that and s4 will definitely delve into that. I have a theory that they will use Hop for their own use and maybe mind control/brainwash him. OR it is Dr. Brenner in the prison, and Hopper is in the upside down but the Russians find him.
Hopper “dying” was expected, but surprising to say the least. All along this season, with so much intense scenes and plotlines, I felt like Hopper would be the one to die. Turning him from a chaotic police chief/dad to a sacrificial hero was drastic, but I’m glad they made his role big this season.
EVERYBODY BEEN KNOWN that hopper and joyce like each other since s1, we just needed Murray to make them face each other like he did with Jonathan and Nancy in S2. TRULY an iconic and power couple (of badasses!) So the fact that they didn’t go on their DATE to Enzo’s makes me feel all sorts of emotions. I mean, they were bickering like a couple the whole time they might as well have wed each other.
AND WHEN I WANTED EL AND WILL TO BE SIBLINGS HOPPER DYING AND JOYCE TAKING HER IN WAS NOT THE WAY I IMAGINED IT.
So let’s talk about Will FREAKING Byers. I believe he is gay, and many fans speculated it starting from mentions in S1. But the fact that Mike specifically said “It’s not my fault you don’t like girls!”, I mean “girls” not “you don’t have a girlfriend” or anything, with Will looking DEVASTATED after, not to mention him WRECKING castle byers (NOAH SCHNAPP IS AMAZING) shows it affected him deeply. BUT Will’s story is FAR from over- just because they’re moving away does not mean they can’t talk about him more. I mean, they ROBBED Noah Schnapp of acting besides touching his neck and saying “He’s here” 5 times this season. Will has been through SO MUCH in S1 and S2, and the fact that giving him this much of a “break” is tragic, considering how in S4e3, these two scenes resonated with me and so many other fans so much!
While we have one unrecognized gay, we have another celebrated gay- ROBIN. Wow, as a new character, she was introduced perfectly, and the friendship she formed with Steve was so amazing. And the fact that her coming out in the 80s was subtle but STEVE WAS LIKE “OH. YOU LIKE THE WRONG GIRL” WAS GREAT, I really like how they progressed that. But if there is no Robin talking to Will as an older gay in s4, I will RIOT.
Steve “Hair”ington was amazing, as usual. His character development was one of the highlights of S2, and continued this season. His friendship with Dustin and growing friendship with Robin and acceptance of her shows that he truly is a deserving character, even though his stupidity was obvious many times this season. SCOOPS AHOY!
Scoops Troop was DELIGHTFUL with little Erica Sinclair and her sassy self. Her attaching Murray from “team Bald Eagle” made me CHOKE and I love that she will be able to embrace her inner nerd.
Here’s the thing about Mike and El- Mike’s character seemed, ~off~ this season. I truly think her obsessing over El and ignoring his friends was a little selfish, but I’m SO glad they admitted that they love each other. Mileven fans SCREAMED worldwide.
But the fact that El uttered the words “I dump your ass” showed HOW ICONIC of a duo Max and Eleven are. El was able to go out and have fun for once, and figure herself out. And Max was so open to teaching El, because she is afterall like a toddler with primitive knowledge of the world. THAT WONDER WOMAN COMIC SCENE shows how important having a girl inspiration is!
Oh and Hopper’s letter? FUCK THAT I SOBBED. That is NOT okay. Hopper basically called El his daughter. Also side note she’s wearing his first daughter’s bracelet. That’s NOT okay. That is all I have on that.
El REALLY used her powers this season, so I don’t believe they’re gone. I thought the bite from the flayer would be a bigger deal since the 2nd to last ep was literally called “The Bite”, but I guess her powers was the main point. But her really going into Billy’s past which she had only done once before with her birth mother and allowing him to see the error of his ways from his memories was a mind trip. Honestly the scenes at the beach were STUNNING and it was really interesting. Billy went from being one of the most hated characters in s2 to being a martyr and saving El from the flayer in s3, and that’s crazy.
But I’m v conflicted about this Zac Efron lookalike- he was racist and abusive after all, and it is devastating to see that he ended up saving El’s life. I’m glad they showed Max’s fight against the flayer in him, because it shows that she really loved him.
Speaking of changed characters, I’m SO glad that they didn’t trash Karen Wheeler’s character, because instead of making her a cheating wife, they showed her caring for her family and having an inspirational talk w Nancy. Her character for once was proven to have a point.
Nancy’s struggles in the workplace were minimal, but I’m glad they brought them up. Although she is privileged like Jonathan said, it’s good to highlight her ambition against the odds, especially after her talk w her mother.
ANYWAYS FUCK THE ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER LOOKALIKE AND RIP MY BUDDY ALEXEI SMIRNOFF. All my buddy wanted was a cherry slurpee and EVEN THEN accepted a strawberry and helped team bald eagle. He just wanted to be a true American and did so by winnin a carnival game. So sweet and kind :(((
So um, DUSTIN SINGING. Been waiting for Gaten to sing since he does irl, and it was a delightful little bit in a episode of chaos. ALTHOUGH if dusty buns hadn’t sang and got planck’s constant that i’ve ripped my hairs out of my head for in college chemistry for suzie poo, Hop and Billy might’ve still be alive. Just sayin...
LASTLY. Joyce needs to go into the police force. For the fact that Detective Byers sounds badass and would do Hop good.
Stranger Things 3 fucked me up emotionally, and I know that the wait for ST4 and the emo fuck up that follows that season will be worth it.
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1. Top 5 Episodes
Okay, so. We literally all know that my top ST episode of all time is 3e7 “The Bite,” for obvious reasons. My other top episodes in no particular order:
s1e2 “The Weirdo on Maple Street.” What can I say? I love terribly awkward teen parties and Steve in his little green sweater. More importantly, this episode is when El meets the Party, tells them about The Upside Down, and shit starts really kicking into gear, setting the whole rest of the series in motion. El interacting with other kids for the first time is so precious and baby Millie’s acting never fails to amaze me.
s2e2 “Trick or Treat, Freak.” Not only do we get Max in a Michael Myers mask and Mike being incredibly tender with Will in this episode, we also get to see El in her little ghost costume! On top of all of that, we get to watch Steve’s heart literally get fucking ripped in half, thrown to the bathroom floor, and stomped on by Nancy. Also he looks fucking gorgeous in his costume and his hair looks so fluffy and the brief period of him dancing like :D before Nancy gets wasted feeds my soul. From a storytelling and character perspective, this episode packs in a shit-ton of relationship development, and I think the Steve/Nancy, El/Hopper, and Mike/Will interactions make it top-tier.
s3e2 “The Mall Rats.” The beginning of the Elmax friendship, the iconic Madonna shopping montage, El trying things on until she finds something that feels like her, “I dump your ass,” the introduction of the Scoops Troop plot and when we really started getting to know Robin, Lucas’s sick fucking fit, Will being extremely gay… need I say more?
s1e8 “The Upside Down.” A lot of excellence, but I love it mostly for the fucking VISUALS and the COMPLEXITY of Nancy, Steve, and Jonathan taking on the Demogorgon together, as well as El’s bravery and the heartwrenching rescue of Will.
17. Most Inspired Storyline
This is sort of answering a different question, but I think the most incredible plot point of s2 was how Bob encouraged Will to face his fears, inadvertently causing Will to be possessed due to the fact that Will’s inner demons were, like, real. Bob gave genuinely good advice, but since he didn’t know the truth of the situation, he ended up doing more harm than good in that particular instance, something that’s often unavoidable for adults who just want the best for the children in their lives. I wouldn’t go so far as to say Will’s possession was the most inspired storyline on the show- I would very selfishly give that award to Steve, either his overall character arc or his friendship with Dustin or Robin, but that’s because I’m the kind of person who couldn’t care less about the actual driving plot of a show in favor of focusing on character arcs and relationships.
26. Character with the Best Aesthetics
El, hands down, no contest. Sorry, Lucas, Nancy, and Steve. You all know how to dress but you simply cannot compete!! El has so many radically different looks that are all iconic and all encapsulate her character at the given stage of her journey. Beyond clothes, her hair alone is so meaningful by simple virtue of its length, and when she gets a nosebleed, it’s always such a striking visual that enhances her emotions, her character, and the story overall.
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